British 2yo Racing - 2005 Trainer Stats for N. Tinkler

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2002 - 2004 Statistics

N. Tinkler (Langton, N. Yorks)

SUMMARY OF APPROACH TO 2YO RACING :-

Unusual approach to 2yo racing and has a poor record. Usually runs around twelve 2yos each season and most run to at least 3TO and some to 6TO. However, despite the relatively high number of 2yo runs the stable does not appear to be targeting 2yo wins. Strike rates are always low at around 3% and the stable had no winner in 2004.
The lack of success with 2yos is also unusual given that the 2yos, while not expensive, are well above 'bargain basement' buys. All 2yos are bought at the yearling or breeze up sales and, for example, in 2004 six of them cost between 10k to 25k gns. They include runners with obvious 'sprint 2yo' pedigrees.
In the period 02-03 the stable had 4 wins with 2yos, 3 of these were in sellers (and none rated above 65). They also had a 'winner' in a weak auction at seller rating (and this race was lost later following a disqualification, probably for failed drugs test).
In 2003 the stable lost Raphoola after she had placed in a seller 3TO. She won her next two races for trainer M. Johnston showing improved form.
The low quality of runners make FTO approach slightly difficult to judge. Debuts runs tend to be well beaten at long SPs. However, most runners are close to, or at their best rating on debut and many do not progress. The 'readiness' on debut led to a low level FTO win in 2002 (later disqualified) and the stable gets the occasional long priced debut place.
It is interesting to consider the cases of the the four runners he has had placed on debut in the seasons 2003-4. The table summarises their later performances. It is probable that the debut places were over-rated in some cases but overall not a good feature.


Name	Debut Place/SP	Future Runs
Perfect Balance	3rd at 14/1 (6f)	4 month break, 2 lower rated runs at 8f
Infidelity	3rd at 100/1	Ran to lower rating STO at 9/4, won 8TO back at debut rating
Sir Loin	3rd at 33/1	Slightly lower rating STO then three poorer runs
As Handsome Does	2nd at 33/1	Two lower rated runs S/3TO then back at debut rating 4TO

It's not easy to explain the overall lack of success, some of the sales buys are on the small side, the stable jockey could be stronger, etc. The law of averages suggest he ought to have two 'natural' 2yos who can rate 70+ and win in 2005, but that roughly 3% strike rate over six seasons is a worry.
Notable for using tongue ties more often than any trainer other than S. B. Suroor.

2005 Debut Runs Summary

2005 SEASON RUN DETAILS

Horse Run # Date Course Dist Gng RcCls RcTyp SP Postn [Est] Run Style Hdgr Notes

DANCING EDGE 1 02/04/2005 DONC 5 G 5 Auc 6 8-11 49 B BSS, NIR

BUTTERFLY BUD 1 13/04/2005 BVLY 5 G 6 Auc 66 4-12 58 B BS-2, -5+Hf, TravOk, POn-1

DANCING EDGE 2 13/04/2005 BVLY 5 G 6 Auc 66 9-12 45 T3 T2H, Dv-2, QFd

DANGERMOUSE 1 18/04/2005 PFCT 5 S 5 Mf 5.5 5-9 42 P43 4Wide, PNkHf, Dv-2, SQFd-1

DANCING EDGE 3 21/04/2005 BVLY 5 S 6 Clm 5 2-9 44 T3 T2Hf, Dv-2, pon

FEELIN IRIE 1 28/04/2005 RDCR 5 G 5 Auc 33 10-16 48 T9 -2+Hf, Outpcd-2f, QFd

BUTTERFLY BUD 2 02/05/2005 NEWC 5 GSS 6 Auc 4 6-12 49 M -3Hf, Dv-2f, Fd-1

DANCING EDGE 4 07/05/2005 THSK 5 G 5 Clm 16 5-10 45 M -2+1, -4Hf, SQFd-1f+,

LUCKSIN 1 09/05/2005 RDCR 5 GFG 6 Nov 10 3-7 60 P2 PNkHf, Eff-2 & SOupcd, Pon

LUCKSIN 2 16/05/2005 EDIN 5 GF 5 Auc 1.63 6-7 37 F Support, FNkHf, SQFd-1, SEsd

DANGERMOUSE 2 17/05/2005 RDCR 6 GFF 6 Mf 8 4-9 47 T4 -1+1f, Outpc -4Hf, SQFd-2f

HAPPY HARRY 1 17/05/2005 BVLY 5 FGF 5 Slr 16 5-9 36 B Outpc+1f, -6Hf, pon -2f

CHARLIE HATHER 1 17/05/2005 BVLY 5 FGF 5 Slr 40 8-9 5 B OupcdErl, -9Hf, SFd

DANCING EDGE 5 20/05/2005 HYDK 5 GF 5 Auc 50 15-16 28 T6M Stds, PromErl, -4Hf & QRFd

HAPPY HARRY 2 23/05/2005 BVLY 5 GF 7 Auc 16 12-14 19 T -3Hf, QRFd-2f

DANGERMOUSE 3 27/05/2005 CATT 5 F 6 Acf 7 7-9 36 T5 Cent, -2Hf, Outpcd-2f, SFd

PENMON POINT 1 01/06/2005 NEWC 5 GGF 5 M 100 9-11 23 2B -5+Hf, NIR, QFd

BOXHOUND 1 04/06/2005 DONC 6 GFG 6 Auc 100 12-16 38 B -4+1f, -6+Hf, SFd

DANGERMOUSE 4 07/06/2005 RDCR 7 GFF 6 Slr 2.75 4-10 32 T3 T1hf, Eff & 2nd-1f, SFd

CHARLIE HATHER 2 07/06/2005 RDCR 7 GFF 6 Slr 40 6-10 23 B -4+Hf, SFd-2f

HAPPY HARRY 3 08/06/2005 BVLY 5 GF 6 Clm 33 6-11 33 B -6+1f, SOutpc -7Hf, Prg-2f SFd

DYLAN 1 13/06/2005 THSK 7 GF 5 M 25 5-10 48 B -4+1f, -9Hf, SQPrg-1.5f

FEELIN IRIE 2 17/06/2005 AYR 5 GS 5 Auc 20 8-8 43 T3 T1Hf, Outpcd-2f, QFd

PENMON POINT 2 17/06/2005 AYR 6 GS 5 Auc 100 9-12 29 B P Rail, -3+1f, -6Hf, SFd

BOXHOUND 2 17/06/2005 AYR 6 GS 5 Auc 66 8-12 39 B -2+1f, -5+Hf, SPrg-2f, SFd

DANCING EDGE 6 30/06/2005 HYDK 6 GFG 6 Clm 7 5-14 32 B -4+1f, -5Hf, SPrgLt

HAPPY HARRY 5 30/06/2005 HYDK 6 GFG 6 Clm 20 7-14 26 FT2 LedErl, -1+Hf & QFd

BOXHOUND 3 30/06/2005 YARM 6 FGF 6 Slr 12 8-9 0 M -4+Hf, QRFd-2f+

LUCKSIN 3 01/07/2005 HYDK 6 GF 5 Auc 16 7-16 54 P3 -1Hf, Outpcd-2f, QFd-1f+

DYLAN 2 01/07/2005 HYDK 6 GF 5 Auc 33 11-16 43 M -4+1f & Hf, QFd-2f

INN A SPIN 1 06/07/2005 CARL 7 FGF 5 Mf 50 7-7 0 BAf Inx, Dv&OutpcdErl, -7Hf, NIR

BUTTERFLY BUD 3 07/07/2005 DONC 6 GGS 4 M 33 9-16 35 B -9Hf, SPrgLt, NIR

FEELIN IRIE 3 09/07/2005 YORK 6 G 4 M 66 7-12 52 F T FNkHf, SFd-2f, 4th -1f, Fd

DANGERMOUSE 5 15/07/2005 HTON 6 GF 3 Nur 33 5-6 33 TB -2+1f, Outpcd+2f, -5Hf, QFd

INN A SPIN 15/07/2005 NMKJ 7 GFG 5 Mf NR-

DANCING EDGE 7 16/07/2005 RIPN 6 GF 6 Slr 14 1-15 45 1H Stds, -3+Hf, Prog-1f+, LdLt

LUCKSIN 4 16/07/2005 HYDK 5 GF 5 Nur 9 3-8 54 T46 -1+1f, -2+Hf, SOtpc, SwcL poLt

CHARLIE HATHER 3 16/07/2005 RIPN 6 GF 6 Slr 33 2-15 44 1B Stds, -4Hf, Eff-2f+, po-1f

HAPPY HARRY 6 18/07/2005 BVLY 5 GS 6 Clm 14 5-9 39 M -3+1f, -4Hf, SOutpcd, SPrgLt

DYLAN 3 21/07/2005 DONC 6 GF 5 Auc 25 10-15 49 B Rail, -4+1f, -5Hf, NIR

DANCING EDGE 8 22/07/2005 YORK 6 GF 4 Slr 25 5-13 37 2B -4Hf, -7+Ov, SPrgLt

DANCING EDGE 9 29/07/2005 THSK 7 GGS 5 Clm 4 7-13 44 T4 -3+1f & Hf, SFd-1f+

LUCKSIN 5 30/07/2005 THSK 5 G 3 Nur 22 3-7 57 T4 -2+Hf, SOutpcd-2f, ponLt

PENMON POINT 3 30/07/2005 THSK 5 G 4 M 100 11-12 39 B -3+1f, -7Hf, SFd-2f

DANGERMOUSE 6 05/08/2005 NMKJ 7 GGF 5 Slr 9 10-17 25 T7 -1+1f, -3Hf, Outpcd-1f+, Fd

CHARLIE HATHER 4 06/08/2005 RDCR 6 GFG 6 Slr 7 5-17 37 B -7Hf, Eff-2f, pon-1f, EsdLt

FEELIN IRIE 4 08/08/2005 THSK 5 GF 5 M 28 9-15 45 P4 T -1Hf, SOutpcd-2+, SFd-1f

PENMON POINT 4 11/08/2005 HYDK 5 GFF 5 Clm 12 6-8 0 TB P -2+1f, -5Hf, QFd-2f+

MISTER SOLO 1 12/08/2005 NEWC 7 S 5 6 100 14-15 0 B B-2, NIR

BUTTERFLY BUD 4 13/08/2005 RIPN 6 GSS 5 Auc 11 2-13 57 2M FrSd, -3+Hf, Ef-2f To 2nd, pon

FEELIN IRIE 5 17/08/2005 YORK 6 GGF 2 M 100 9-10 50 T3 T -1+Hf, QFd-2f

LUCKSIN 6 18/08/2005 CHES 5.1 GF 4 Nur 8 7-10 43 T7 A5, -4Hf, SOutpcd-2f, SFd, NIR

DANCING EDGE 10 26/08/2005 NEWC 8 GFG 6 Clm 6 10-16 24 T -2+Hf, QFd-2f

DYLAN 4 26/08/2005 THSK 6 GFG 4 M 33 8-11 21 B6 -2+1f, -4+Hf & Qfd

LUCKSIN 7 30/08/2005 RIPN 5 GF 5 Auc 7 2-9 63 FT2 Ld2f, -1Hf, pon-1f

MOONLIGHT FANTASY 1 31/08/2005 YORK 8 GF 4 Auc 100 9-15 43 B11 StrngPc, -9Hf, SProg-2f

FEELIN IRIE 6 03/09/2005 THSK 7 GFF 5 Auc 28 4-15 51 F OkPc, FHfHf, 2nd-1f, SFd

DYLAN 5 05/09/2005 NEWC 6 GFG 5 M 66 13-16 14 1M Stds, -4+Hf, QFd-1f+

CHARLIE HATHER 5 06/09/2005 LEIC 7 GFF 6 SNr 16 11-18 13 M -5Hf, QFd-2f+

BUTTERFLY BUD 5 09/09/2005 DONC 6 GSG 2 Sal 50 15-19 21 2M FrSd, -2+1f, -4+Hf, QFd-2f

FEELIN IRIE 7 12/09/2005 EDIN 8 GGF 5 Auc 9 1-9 55 F AvPc, F1+1, F2Hf, POn-1+

LUCKSIN 8 12/09/2005 RDCR 5 GGS 5 Nur 8 2-14 65 T4 StrgPc, -2+1, -3Hf, Ef-1.5, ko

MOONLIGHT FANTASY 2 16/09/2005 NOTT 8.2 GGS 5 M 66 9-14 41 T2 SQFre, -HfHf, QFd-2f

FEELIN IRIE 8 21/09/2005 RDCR 8 GGF 5 Nur 14 17-20 38 FP2 F1+1, -HfHf, QFd-3.5f+

LUCKSIN 9 01/10/2005 WTON 6 STD 5 M 4 5-9 58 F F1Hf, Hdd-2f, SFd-1+

BUTTERFLY BUD 6 09/10/2005 NEWC 7 GGF 6 Auc 8 4-14 39 T2 -1+Hf, SQFd-2f+

MOONLIGHT FANTASY 3 09/10/2005 NEWC 7 GGF 6 Auc 16 9-14 24 T -2+Hf, SQFd-2f

CHARLIE HATHER 6 14/10/2005 RDCR 7 GGF 6 Clm 50 14-18 17 B14 AvPc -4+Hf, QFd-2f

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2005 SEASON DEBUT RUN DETAILS

Horse	Run #	Date	Course	Dist	Gng	RcCls	RcTyp	SP	Postn	[Est]	Run Style	Hdgr	Notes
DANCING EDGE	1	02/04/2005	DONC	5	G	5	Auc	6	8-11	49	B		BSS, NIR
BUTTERFLY BUD	1	13/04/2005	BVLY	5	G	6	Auc	66	4-12	58	B		BS-2, -5+Hf, TravOk, POn-1
DANGERMOUSE	1	18/04/2005	PFCT	5	S	5	Mf	5.5	5-9	42	P43		4Wide, PNkHf, Dv-2, SQFd-1
FEELIN IRIE	1	28/04/2005	RDCR	5	G	5	Auc	33	10-16	48	T9		-2+Hf, Outpcd-2f, QFd
LUCKSIN	1	09/05/2005	RDCR	5	GFG	6	Nov	10	3-7	60	P2		PNkHf, Eff-2 & SOupcd, Pon
HAPPY HARRY	1	17/05/2005	BVLY	5	FGF	5	Slr	16	5-9	36	B		Outpc+1f, -6Hf, pon -2f
CHARLIE HATHER	1	17/05/2005	BVLY	5	FGF	5	Slr	40	8-9	5	B		OupcdErl, -9Hf, SFd
PENMON POINT	1	01/06/2005	NEWC	5	GGF	5	M	100	9-11	23	2B		-5+Hf, NIR, QFd
BOXHOUND	1	04/06/2005	DONC	6	GFG	6	Auc	100	12-16	38	B		-4+1f, -6+Hf, SFd
DYLAN	1	13/06/2005	THSK	7	GF	5	M	25	5-10	48	B		-4+1f, -9Hf, SQPrg-1.5f
INN A SPIN	1	06/07/2005	CARL	7	FGF	5	Mf	50	7-7	0	BAf		Inx, Dv&OutpcdErl, -7Hf, NIR
MISTER SOLO	1	12/08/2005	NEWC	7	S	5	6	100	14-15	0	B		B-2, NIR
MOONLIGHT FANTASY	1	31/08/2005	YORK	8	GF	4	Auc	100	9-15	43	B11		StrngPc, -9Hf, SProg-2f
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