British 2yo Racing - 2005 Trainer Stats for J. G. Given

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J. G. Given (Gainsborough)

SUMMARY OF APPROACH TO 2YO RACING :-

He has a non-racing background and trained as Vet. He was assistant to M. Johnston prior to starting training in his own name with 6 hoses at Wolverhampton racecourse in 1999. Went into partnership with Andy Clarke (owner of the stable) and trains his horses along with those from other owners. By 2002 the yard had 80 horses and expanded yard by adding Jim Leigh's neighbouring yard.
Stable still has increasing numbers of horses, including 2yos. Has an interesting approach and record with respect to 2yo racing. His record is contradictory in some aspects but there are a number of clearly identifiable features.
The stable has run between 30 and 44 2yos in 2002-4 and nearly all of the 2yos in the yard will run during the season although around a quarter will run only once. The table indicates the sources of those runners. The figure in brackets is the number of winners from that group of horses.


	Sales	Price Range	Owner Bred
2002	20 (3)	1.5k to 40k gns	10 (1)
2003	29 (6)	5k to 60k gns	17 (4)
2004	18 (4)	7k to 50k gns	21 (2)

Given the number of runners, along with the prices and sources the overall return in terms of winners and strike rate could be better. Consider also that in 2003-4 the stable ran 83 horses as 2yos and only one of them rated over 90. It is possible that this is a 'recruitment' issue rather than a training one, if the runners have ability he usually identifies it and they show it on course.
His strategy is to to identify the early and natural 2yo types and prepare them to win on debut or STO. The better types will be stepped up to Conditions+ races. A number of the poor runners and 2yo types will run past 3TO. There will be a batch of later season debuts each season which will usually run once or, at most, twice.
Following a solid 2003 season he had a poor 2004 with only 6 winners of 7 races. 5 of the wins were at seller/claimer level. This was further indication that he's learnt how to win with poorer types.
Identifies those with natural ability and these will debut early and should place FTO with the better types competitive for a win on debut. He is a very good example of a 'Show or nothing' (SON) trainer whereby if his runners do not place on debut they aren't very good and unlikely to win at 2yo.
2004 a slightly untypical season with 3 of the 6 during the season not in the first 6 places on debut. However there were reasons for this anomaly and it is unlikely to be repeated in 2005. It was untypical because the three who were 7th+ on debut were all poor runners (including one nutcase who did what she thought best FTO and won STO). The other two were dropped to low class seller/ H Auction wins (AW) on 7TO and 5TO after solid debuts within their limited ability.
Shorter FTO SPs early in season (March to May) are good sign of better runners which he has identified at home. The lack of short SPs early in the season in 2004 were probably a mark of the lack of any useful early types.
Part of his contradictory overall record is that while later season debuts are still competent the SP is not correlated to performance. However, the preparation he gives to the runners before they run can lead to long priced wins and places by his horses. This is partly because they are in mixed fields where the other runners are similar later season types but not as well prepared. Think about this list from 2002-4 = Summitville won at 25/1, First Candlelight 2nd at 25/1, Antediluvian won 20/1, Dakota Blackhills 2nd at 50/1, Sheboygan 3rd at 25/1, Coconut Squeak 3rd at 25/1. Five of the six won during the season and the other ran in the last maiden of the season and had no chance to run again at 2yo.
In line with his debut runs being very ready the STO runs tend to improve only by 1-7lbs. Some ran to a lower rating in 2004.
The fact that he identifies the more natural 2yos at home means that the winners during the season are more likely to come from the early debuts. The later debuts tend to be very short on 2yo potential and include very few 2yo winners (however see point above about notable exceptions which are difficult to spot in advance). In 2004 for example the last 21 debuts in the season included one winner (who finished 3rd at 25/1 on debut and won STO).
His record with nursery runners is now roughly equivalent to his overall strike rate with 3 winners from 32 runners in 2003-4.

2005 Debut Runs Summary

2005 SEASON RUN DETAILS

Horse Run # Date Course Dist Gng RcCls RcTyp SP Postn [Est] Run Style Hdgr Notes

SONG HUNTRESS 1 17/05/2005 RDCR 6 GFF 6 Mf 12 8-9 0 TB 5thErl, QOutpc+2f, -7Hf, QFd

MYKEYTA 19/05/2005 DONC 6 G 5 Auc 100 WD- Refused Stalls

SONG HUNTRESS 2 23/05/2005 THSK 6 G 5 SrF 28 8-13 19 M -3+Hf, DvHf, SFd

GIGS MAGIC 1 28/05/2005 DONC 6 GF 5 M 12 9-11 45 B Outpc+1f, SInxDvHf, SHmp-1f

SONG HUNTRESS 3 01/06/2005 YARM 6 GF 6 Slr 14 5-7 33 B BSS, HldUp, Ef-2f, SFd-1f

CARRIETAU 04/06/2005 DONC 6 GFG 6 Auc 33 WD- Injure Jcky/Racegoer Pdk

KHORKINA 1 07/06/2005 RDCR 6 GFF 5 M 33 13-14 0 B -4+1f, Outpcd, NIR

SONG HUNTRESS 4 08/06/2005 BVLY 5 GF 6 Clm 10 1-11 40 T5 1Wd, T2Hf, Eff-1f+, pon, LdLt

GIGS MAGIC 2 10/06/2005 WTON 6 STD 5 M 4.5 2-12 71 T -1.5Hf, Dv-1f+, POn-1

CARRIETAU 1 11/06/2005 RIPN 6 GF 5 M 25 5-11 59 T -2Hf, Outpcd, pon-1f

CARRIETAU 2 13/06/2005 THSK 7 GF 5 M 5.5 7-9 50 M 5WdBnd, -3Hf, Dv&Outpcd

WHOOPEE 1 19/06/2005 PFCT 6 GF 5 Mf 14 8-14 39 T5 Rail, LckPcOv, -4Hf, SQFd-2f

GIGS MAGIC 20/06/2005 NOTT 6 GF 5 M NR-

KHORKINA 2 23/06/2005 THSK 6 GFF 5 M 40 9-10 10 M -2+1f, -4Hf, Outpcd, QFd

SHELTONSTOPCAT 1 23/06/2005 NEWC 6 GFG 6 Auc 14 13-17 22 1B Stds, NIR

GIGS MAGIC 3 25/06/2005 NEWC 6 G 4 M 1.88 4-7 44 P2 PNkHf, Dv-2f, SQFd-1f+, SHmp

MYKEYTA 1 29/06/2005 CATT 5 FGF 5 Mf 50 8-8 8 B -4+1f, -8Hf, HgLh, QFd

GIGS MAGIC 4 22/07/2005 WTON 6 STD 5 Nur 6 9-9 23 M -3+Hf, Dv-2f+, QRFd

MYKEYTA 2 03/08/2005 NEWC 6 GGS 6 M 100 9-18 23 2M FrSd, -3Hf, SQFd-2f

LOCH AWE 1 03/08/2005 PFCT 6 GGF 4 M 33 7-13 45 B -4+1f, -5+Hf, SFdLt

REGAL LASS 1 11/08/2005 BVLY 5 GFG 4 Mf 16 5-10 38 T6 B-1, -3+1f, -5Hf, SFd-1f

SHELTONSTOPCAT 2 12/08/2005 NEWC 7 S 5 6 50 11-15 3 T -2+Hf, Dv-3f, QRFd-2.5f

SONG HUNTRESS 10 15/08/2005 YARM 6 GFG 6 Clm 11 2-14 37 T -2Hf, Ef-2f, Ld-1f, pon

ARCANGELA 1 31/08/2005 YORK 8 GF 4 Auc 40 8-15 42 T6 StrngPc, -5+Hf, QFd-2f

QUADROPHENIA 1 01/09/2005 RDCR 5 GFG 6 Auc 12 2-8 57 T7 -1+Hf, Ef-1.5, Chal-1, Pon

CARRIETAU 3 03/09/2005 HYDK 6 GGS 5 M 50 13-16 32 T4 -3+1f, -1+Hf, QOutpcd-2f

TRICK OR TREAT 1 03/09/2005 HYDK 6 GGS 5 M 16 8-16 42 B13 -6+Hf, SPrgLt into Faders

MYKEYTA 3 05/09/2005 NEWC 6 GFG 5 M 66 16-16 0 2B XB to FrSd, NIR

SHELTONSTOPCAT 3 07/09/2005 DONC 8 GFG 4 M 100 10-10 47 B8 A3, Rail -4Hf, QOtpc-2, SRspLt

QUADROPHENIA 2 12/09/2005 EDIN 5 GGF 5 Auc 2 1-9 49 T2 -1+Hf, Chal-1f, POn-1

OSOLOMIO 1 13/09/2005 THSK 7 G 5 M 66 9-9 19 B9 B-2, -10Hf, NProg

REGAL LASS 2 14/09/2005 BVLY 5 GGF 5 M 40 11-14 30 B11 -5+1, -7+Hf, NProg, SJkQt

GIGS MAGIC 5 16/09/2005 NOTT 6.1 GGS 5 Nur 25 17-17 0 1B11 Stds, B-1, -5+Hf, RFd

TRICK OR TREAT 2 16/09/2005 NOTT 6.1 GGS 5 M 20 7-15 34 1B Stds, -3+1, -5+Hf, QFd-2f+

LULOAH 1 25/09/2005 EDIN 5 GFG 5 M 12 4-10 44 M6 OkPc, -3Hf, SPrg-1f

PADDY MOON 1 01/10/2005 WTON 6 STD 5 M 7 6-9 40 T SInx, -2+Hf, SQFd-1+

REGAL LASS 3 05/10/2005 NOTT 5.1 G 4 M 16 9-10 45 T4 OkPc Cent, -3+Hf, Fd-1.5f

LULOAH 2 06/10/2005 SWEL 5 STD 7 M 3.5 3-12 53 F FHfHf, pon-1+, HddLt

ARCANGELA 2 10/10/2005 AYR 8 SHV 4 Mf 20 7-9 1 T3 ModPc 3Wd, -1+Hf SwcCnt QFd-3f

QUADROPHENIA 3 10/10/2005 AYR 6 S 5 Nur 7 7-18 37 1B15 Rail, -7Hf & SDv, SPrgLt

REBELLIOUS SPIRIT 1 14/10/2005 RDCR 8 GGF 6 M 25 6-11 56 T4 AvPc -1+Hf, SEf-2f, Fd-1+

LAMBENCY 1 19/10/2005 NEWC 7 SGS 5 Mf 20 9-11 30 T Dv-2f, SQFd-2f

LOCH AWE 2 19/10/2005 NEWC 7 SGS 5 Mf 12 6-11 52 T Dv-3f, SFd-1.5f

PADDY MOON 2 19/10/2005 NOTT 6.1 GSG 6 M 33 5-11 40 2F Race Alone FrSd, -2Hf, Fd-1f

VIRGINIA ROSE 1 19/10/2005 NEWC 7 SGS 5 Mf 8 6-12 39 M SPrg Cent-3f, Chal-2f, FdLt

ZINGBAT 1 19/10/2005 NOTT 8.2 S 5 M 12 15-15 0 B9 ModPc, -4+Hf, QFd-3f

GIVE IT TIME 1 21/10/2005 DONC 8 S 5 Mf 100 7-18 31 B13 AvPc, -7+Hf, SProg-2+

GUANYIN 1 21/10/2005 DONC 7 S 5 M 100 9-14 34 B12 B-2 XB MAPc -4+Hf, SOtpc-3 SFd

KHORKINA 3 21/10/2005 DONC 8 S 5 Mf 100 18-18 0 B18 FrSd Bck Str, OtpcdErl, -18+Hf

XENIA 1 21/10/2005 DONC 7 S 5 M 50 9-14 10 2B3 FrSd, B-1, -5+1, -15Hf, QFd

LULOAH 3 31/10/2005 WTON 5.1 STD 5 M 7 8-13 43 FT2 Led1f, Chal-1f+, Fd-1f

REBELLIOUS SPIRIT 2 31/10/2005 WTON 7.1 STD 5 M 8 2-11 54 T2F Led+3f, Pon-1f+, Hdd Lt

LOCH AWE 3 02/11/2005 NOTT 8.2 HV 5 M 14 9-13 3 T4 MAPc, -2Hf, Otpcd-3f, QFd-2f

PADDY MOON 3 02/11/2005 NOTT 6.1 HV 5 M 16 7-9 24 T6 MAPc -2Hf, SQOtpcd-2+, Fd-1+

THE PREACHER 1 02/11/2005 NOTT 8.2 HV 5 M 33 8-13 21 M7 MAPc -2+Hf, QOtpcd-3f, SQFd-2

BAILEYS POLKA 1 03/11/2005 EDIN 7.1 GGS 5 M 33 2-10 55 T4 AvPc -3+Hf, Ef&Ld-1.5 Hd-1 SFd

GUANYIN 2 03/11/2005 EDIN 8 GGS 4 M 66 8-13 21 F Rail OkPc, FNkHf, QFd-2.5f

LAMBENCY 16 05/11/2005 DONC 6 S 5 M 50 8-18 0 1F AvPc -6Ov+1, Ef+2, -7Hf QFd-2+

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2005 SEASON DEBUT RUN DETAILS

Horse	Run #	Date	Course	Dist	Gng	RcCls	RcTyp	SP	Postn	[Est]	Run Style	Hdgr	Notes
SONG HUNTRESS	1	17/05/2005	RDCR	6	GFF	6	Mf	12	8-9	0	TB		5thErl, QOutpc+2f, -7Hf, QFd
GIGS MAGIC	1	28/05/2005	DONC	6	GF	5	M	12	9-11	45	B		Outpc+1f, SInxDvHf, SHmp-1f
KHORKINA	1	07/06/2005	RDCR	6	GFF	5	M	33	13-14	0	B		-4+1f, Outpcd, NIR
CARRIETAU	1	11/06/2005	RIPN	6	GF	5	M	25	5-11	59	T		-2Hf, Outpcd, pon-1f
WHOOPEE	1	19/06/2005	PFCT	6	GF	5	Mf	14	8-14	39	T5		Rail, LckPcOv, -4Hf, SQFd-2f
SHELTONSTOPCAT	1	23/06/2005	NEWC	6	GFG	6	Auc	14	13-17	22	1B		Stds, NIR
MYKEYTA	1	29/06/2005	CATT	5	FGF	5	Mf	50	8-8	8	B		-4+1f, -8Hf, HgLh, QFd
LOCH AWE	1	03/08/2005	PFCT	6	GGF	4	M	33	7-13	45	B		-4+1f, -5+Hf, SFdLt
REGAL LASS	1	11/08/2005	BVLY	5	GFG	4	Mf	16	5-10	38	T6		B-1, -3+1f, -5Hf, SFd-1f
ARCANGELA	1	31/08/2005	YORK	8	GF	4	Auc	40	8-15	42	T6		StrngPc, -5+Hf, QFd-2f
QUADROPHENIA	1	01/09/2005	RDCR	5	GFG	6	Auc	12	2-8	57	T7		-1+Hf, Ef-1.5, Chal-1, Pon
TRICK OR TREAT	1	03/09/2005	HYDK	6	GGS	5	M	16	8-16	42	B13		-6+Hf, SPrgLt into Faders
OSOLOMIO	1	13/09/2005	THSK	7	G	5	M	66	9-9	19	B9		B-2, -10Hf, NProg
LULOAH	1	25/09/2005	EDIN	5	GFG	5	M	12	4-10	44	M6		OkPc, -3Hf, SPrg-1f
PADDY MOON	1	01/10/2005	WTON	6	STD	5	M	7	6-9	40	T		SInx, -2+Hf, SQFd-1+
REBELLIOUS SPIRIT	1	14/10/2005	RDCR	8	GGF	6	M	25	6-11	56	T4		AvPc -1+Hf, SEf-2f, Fd-1+
LAMBENCY	1	19/10/2005	NEWC	7	SGS	5	Mf	20	9-11	30	T		Dv-2f, SQFd-2f
VIRGINIA ROSE	1	19/10/2005	NEWC	7	SGS	5	Mf	8	6-12	39	M		SPrg Cent-3f, Chal-2f, FdLt
ZINGBAT	1	19/10/2005	NOTT	8.2	S	5	M	12	15-15	0	B9		ModPc, -4+Hf, QFd-3f
GIVE IT TIME	1	21/10/2005	DONC	8	S	5	Mf	100	7-18	31	B13		AvPc, -7+Hf, SProg-2+
GUANYIN	1	21/10/2005	DONC	7	S	5	M	100	9-14	34	B12		B-2 XB MAPc -4+Hf, SOtpc-3 SFd
XENIA	1	21/10/2005	DONC	7	S	5	M	50	9-14	10	2B3		FrSd, B-1, -5+1, -15Hf, QFd
THE PREACHER	1	02/11/2005	NOTT	8.2	HV	5	M	33	8-13	21	M7		MAPc -2+Hf, QOtpcd-3f, SQFd-2
BAILEYS POLKA	1	03/11/2005	EDIN	7.1	GGS	5	M	33	2-10	55	T4		AvPc -3+Hf, Ef&Ld-1.5 Hd-1 SFd
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